Trackback really is dead - Sorry Elliott et al

From a user point of view: Nobody understands it. One of the questions I get constantly is what is Trackback? And I get this questions from both new and veteran bloggers.

From a technical point of view: There's no authentication and no way to eliminate trackback spam.

What people want to really know is this: who's linking to my blog (to individual blog posts, to the the home page, to anywhere on their site), website or mentioning my name or company? This is what people want to know (and yes I know Trackback can be used for other purposes like telling your blog what MP3 you are playing at the moment but only geeks use Trackback for that!). They don't care about Trackback and if there had never been Trackback, this is still what people would want to know.

PubSub does this particularly well (usual disclaimer: I am friends with the CEO and CTO of PubSub and you can accomplish almost the same thing with Feedster, Technorati et al but in my experience PubSub is the most accurate and timely). With a single search you can tell whether somebody is linking to anywhere in your blog or mentioning your company name or keywords. Very powerful and much more easy to understand and more general than Trackback.

From Trackback not Dead - Elliott Back.:

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Even though pundits have been saying that trackback is dead, the idea of using Technorati or another external tool to track citations and interactions is just too clumsy for me to accept. The point of trackback is arguably to extend conversations over multiple blogs-which Technorati does-but it has the desireable sideeffect of directly linking to the commenting blog. This removes the middleman, Technorati, and optimizes a readers flow. Instead of having to click on a -read commentary on Technorati- link, wait for and browse the list of commenting blogs, and finally choose an article to view, they travel directly to the commentary. From a user perspective, this is important.

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Trackback really is dead...

was designed to provide a method of notification between websites: it is a method of person A saying to person to believe that sending a trackback to authors writing about the same thing would be a good thing, so we could all carry on a nice interlinked dialogue. Of course, not everyone has the same definitions..

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re: Trackback really is dead - Sorry Elliott et al

Thanks for the very clear explanation of what trackback is. I knew that but was too lazy to articulate as clearly as you did.

I still think that what you really want to do is to link A to B and that is better off done using an old fashioned link and that PubSub et al are the best way to discover that A is linked to B.

re: Trackback really is dead - Sorry Elliott et al

I remember when I first started blogging I had no clue what trackback was, so I read the spec from MT:

In a nutshell, TrackBack was designed to provide a method of notification between websites: it is a method of person A saying to person B, "This is something you may be interested in." To do that, person A sends a TrackBack ping to person B.

This led me to believe that sending a trackback to authors writing about the same thing would be a good thing, so we could all carry on a nice interlinked dialogue. Of course, not everyone has the same definition of trackback, and consider a trackback from a page that doesn't directly link to them to be spam.

So, what is trackback? A way of putting a link on someone's page. The notions of when this is abusive are extremely fuzzy, and vary from person to person, but I think its aims are laudable. The fact that it's unauthenticated is not de facto a bad thing. For example, a user could send a trackback to your page on behalf of another page, establishing a relationship that you might not have noticed. Of course, this opens up the possibility of spam, but there are excellent heuristics for handling this.

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